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Posted by Antonio J. on
08-09-2005
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Hi friends,
I'm an abosolute ignorant about these two composers and coincidentally to their anniversaries, I've thought to ask for your wise advice. I like russian composers and also orchestral works better than chamber ones, so fire your guns. If you also could recommend good renditions of the adviced works, it'd be even better.
Thanks
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Posted by Romy the Cat on
08-09-2005
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Antonio, nether Glazunov nor Myaskovsky were composers about whom I ever cared a lot, perhaps mistakably. Also, and maybe regrettably, not a lot of Interesting” performers play Glazunov’s and Myaskovsky’s works.
Myaskovsky has violin and cello concertos and 4040673 symphonies and a dozen quartets. “Olympia” label year after yeas issues the Myaskovsky’s CDs and it probably would be a good place to start. There is a wonderful Russian site:
http://www.myaskovsky.ru
that is quite good in English and that might be a good guide for you. If I were you I would start from Myaskovsky’s Symphony #VI and his Cello Concerto. Be prepared for a slightly weepy and overly pretentious, "too much Russian" music.
Glazunov’s some quarters are “near OK” and some of his symphonies are survivable (for instance the Symphony #4 and #5). Neeme Järvi played a lot of Glazunov and I would certainly hunt for Järvi performances.
Still, to me, Myaskovsky and Glazunov are Rimsky-Korsakovs with talent deficiency. They remind me the music of the infinitely wiling to say something Nikolay Medtner that itself might be OK from certain perspective but… But after you listen any of Medtner 25554 piano concertos (his “skaskas” are better) along with one single phrase of Rachmaninoff then you instantaneously begin to feel why Myaskovsky, Medtner and Glazunov were (in a way) Russian’s “B” composers.
Surely, I do not mean to sound demeaning but… hey… you will be the judge.
Rgs,
Romy the Cat
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Posted by Antonio J. on
08-09-2005
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Still, to me, Myaskovsky and Glazunov are Rimsky-Korsakovs with talent deficiency. They remind me the music of the infinitely wiling to say something Nikolay Medtner that itself might be OK from certain perspective but… But after you listen any of Medtner 25554 piano concertos (his “skaskas” are better) along with one single phrase of Rachmaninoff then you instantaneously begin to feel why Myaskovsky, Medtner and Glazunov were (in a way) Russian’s “B” composers.
Surely, I do not mean to sound demeaning but… hey… you will be the judge.
Rgs,
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I think that paragraph says it all. I love Rimsky and Rachmaninoff, and I still know very few works of them, so I'd better get a deeper knowledge about them before starting meeting new kids. Would you recommend some of their works different than the most popular ones? Also knowing which is your favourite rendition of the Rachma's 3rd piano concerto would be interesting ;-)
Thanks and regards,
AJ
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Posted by Romy the Cat on
08-09-2005
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| Antonio J. wrote: | | Would you recommend some of their works different than the most popular ones? Also knowing which is your favourite rendition of the Rachma's 3rd piano concerto would be interesting ;-) |
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Without any particular order:
Gieseking with Barbirolli in 1939 is a phenomenal performance. Mistakably did not listen it for a long time as I was confusing it with the horrible Mengelberg–Gieseking performance of the same year.
Gavrilov with Lazarev recording from 1977 is superb performance as well.
Horowitz with Reiner in 1951 did a very good job, but it is kind of the Horowitz’s things….
Earl Wild with Horenstein in 1966 did wonderfully and the Reader Digest flavored it with superb Sound quality.
Rachmaninoff himself with Ormandy is very fine performance that should not be overlooked. Phenomenal and very different play!
Janis with Dorati is a outstanding performance…
There are many more, in fact hundreds, but the above would be some of the Creme de la Creme of the Rachmaninoff’s Their...
Rgs,
Romy the Cat
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Posted by Antonio J. on
08-10-2005
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What about other Rachmaninoff's and Rimsky's works I should know? :-)
Regards,
AJ
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Posted by Romy the Cat on
11-04-2008
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fiogf49gjkf0d  Romy the Cat wrote: | | Without any particular order: Gieseking with Barbirolli in 1939 is a phenomenal performance. Mistakably did not listen it for a long time as I was confusing it with the horrible Mengelberg–Gieseking performance of the same year. Gavrilov with Lazarev recording from 1977 is superb performance as well. Horowitz with Reiner in 1951 did a very good job, but it is kind of the Horowitz’s things…. Earl Wild with Horenstein in 1966 did wonderfully and the Reader Digest flavored it with superb Sound quality. Rachmaninoff himself with Ormandy is very fine performance that should not be overlooked. Phenomenal and very different play! Janis with Dorati is a outstanding performance… There are many more, in fact hundreds, but the above would be some of the Creme de la Creme of the Rachmaninoff’s Their... |
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I was experimenting today with HD Radio and was listening WCRB. They played Rachmaninoff’s Piano concerto #3 that was very very good, surprisingly good and I was not able to recognize what it was. I looked at their playlist and learned that it was Cuban Horacio Gutiérrez with Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra under button of Lorin Maazel. I never knew this guy. Now I know…
The Cat
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Posted by Romy the Cat on
11-10-2008
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fiogf49gjkf0d | Romy the Cat wrote: | | I was experimenting today with HD Radio and was listening WCRB. They played Rachmaninoff’s Piano concerto #3 that was very very good, surprisingly good and I was not able to recognize what it was. I looked at their playlist and learned that it was Cuban Horacio Gutiérrez with Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra under button of Lorin Maazel. I never knew this guy. Now I know… |
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This is funny. I have ordered the Horacio Gutiérrez CD from Amazon with his and Pittsburgh playing Rach’s 2 and 3. I got the CD.. What a pile of crap!!! I mend the play is in a way more or less OK but the CD is practically unlistenable. It is like sound from under water. I generally do not like Pittsburgh Symphony’s sound but here it was beyond any wild imagination. I am very close to trash the CD.
The caT
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Posted by tuga on
11-11-2008
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fiogf49gjkf0d I had already added the CD to my next order...
Is this water sound a TELARC thing or just particular to this recording and PittS?
Cheers,
Tuga
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Posted by jp on
04-15-2009
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fiogf49gjkf0d A friend of mine is playing Rachmaninoff 3rd at Alice Tully Hall in Phila this week. For reference I listened to a CD by Argerich (Phillips label) and it wasnt very much to my liking. Anyone care to share their experience on some good performances? Ive tried some suggestions on this site but a bit difficult to locate
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