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Posted by Romy the Cat on 09-28-2009
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You have just a few days left before the BBC will pull if out:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00mvd9n

The old NPR program:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3604238

The Carlos Kleiber’s discography:

http://www.thrsw.com/ckdisc/

The Cat

Posted by Romy the Cat on 09-28-2009
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The Carlos Kleiber’s instructions to Chicago symphony: “Do not play together. I just will move my hand down slowly and each of you start when you feel is right”

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Posted by Romy the Cat on 09-29-2009
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File name: Carlos Kleiber.MP3
Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/file/0mdhdxzmkkt

 http://www.mediafire.com/?wn4lnykyqkk

The Cat

Posted by Paul S on 09-29-2009
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This is as good an explanation as I have heard for my current favorite orchestral mode, namely what I presently thnk of as the "historical" mode, where each section and even each instrument plays "vital" ensemble like it has a life of its own, too.

I have also become fascinated lately with a related phenomenon, involving some of the "elite" orchestras under the direction of a Kleiber, or a Horenstein (or a Furtwangler). In this case, the first chairs are strong, which engenders sectional homogeneity; but the conductor just drives everyone until the "creamy-ness" shatters and the orchestra re-assembles as a group where every voice must account for itself, temporally, tonally, etc., etc.

Naturally, the version of this I now favor ass-u-mes excellent musicianship and ensemble play on every one's part (of course).

Best regards,
Paul S

Posted by Romy the Cat on 02-04-2011
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A phenomenal new film about Carlos Kleiber in 5 parts. I insanely love the man and I absolutely adore anything about him.


Posted by Romy the Cat on 06-28-2013
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Posted by Paul S on 06-28-2013
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Thanks, Romy!

Does anyone know if there is a recording of the exact Wagner performance that opens and closes this documentary?  I have heard it played like this before, but only in my mind, without apparent force from the musicians, and so slowly that to think of it as a performance like this, it should fly apart in pieces; yet it not only retains its gravity but it IS gravity, and so coherent...  Incredible.

Paul S

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