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Posted by Amir on 12-12-2010
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we communicate with all things in the world and audio is one of them.
i think audio is a game that is interesting for audiophiles and and it's meaning differ for audiophiles.
some just enjoy paying money on components in stereophile top list, some think are more clever and goes toward tune and ...
some audiophiles think finding true solution (as making a true improvement with no negative feedback in every respect) for audio is not easy.
some audiophiles think audio is a plug and play device and making good sound is not more difficult than replacing transistors with tubes.
both spend time , money and effort and both gain less than their expect.

I really think audio game is not interesting if we measure it's cost, I prefer to be out of game.
I do not say audiophiles do not enjoy and i do not say audio is a bad thing, i just say audio is a restricted field with hard to find good solutions.

I say all we gain in audio is restricted to small effect on higher level of awarness (most effect is on lower levels) and we pay so much cost for it.
Ok, all pay it because they like it but i like to say there are better thing for communicate.

I decided to create a category "anti hifi" on my site.

maybe "anti hifi" idea be effective for my readers in iran.


Posted by Jorge on 12-12-2010
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I think the main idea, like you say, is to enjoy.  
For someone to take the time every day or even every week to sit down and relax a couple of hours and just listen to music, and close thier eyes and concentrate on Mozart or even Patricia Barber is a wonderful thing.  If somebody is spending time and money pursuing this activity it means they are on the same road, one can be more advanced on the road than the other, but we are still taking a couple of hours at least every couple of days to relax and enjoy the music. 

Every form of art feeds your brain, makes more sinapsis inside your head and makes you grow a little in a good way.  I am all for it! Even if it is a Ghetto Blaster or some little Speakers with SS amp, or Huge Horns with DHT triodes,  the level of awareness in our life as "music lovers" will grow as our level of awareness in our musical tastes and our gear, no matter of we make our own gear or buy the most expensive shit around, we are on the same road and it is a good road!  I see no need for the SS people to fight the Tube people or the Digital Vs analog, or the DIY against anything! We are all brother wiht the same activity, sit down and listen to music.

When I was younger I couldnt afford a CD player,  they had just come out and all my friends were hurrying me up to buy a CD player I could not afford,  shit, I had to stick with my TT and Lps untill the early 90s!  I had to stick to my Electro Voice TRX12 speakers because there was no internet and no way of knowing there was better gear out there!  No way I could blame someone for the making the mistakes I made,  maybe in a few years I will be buying the most expensive little monitors or making a huge Bass horn (more likely)!  Who knows where the road might lead us!

Posted by unicon on 12-12-2010
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Despite the fact that how I ever cared about anything mozfart when I have blind listening;
I think we should bear in mind that till today we have had limited knowledge in anything playback acoustic(to be really accurate).
99,999 % of people involving in audio have faulty playbacks...
WE unfortunately have no Definition of FAULT FREE playback ... none of us have.
Fault free playback may can have no similarity with  TERMS made by suns of biches in the hifi industry.
Yet again its really rare to see someone have a Fault free playback.
and in this moment hifi industry tries to hide this fact from us by pretending how they have overcome it and have something more by presenting new BS products. They seed their wormy stomach by bsing and shaping people interests in audio. It is not just audio it started from where Edward Berney used Frued's idea from controlling the masses and show corporations how to sell what they wanted ... And the results were to see corporations base on making all crap products which definitely were not made by masses needs but for selling purposes.That fucked up everything around the world And now there is no wonder to see how they going to collapse. Try watch : Century Of The Self made and written by Adam Curtis (BBC) for more info.


Regards
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Posted by Amir on 12-13-2010
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 unicon wrote:

Despite the fact that how I ever cared about anything mozfart when I have blind listening;
I think we should bear in mind that till today we have had limited knowledge in anything playback acoustic(to be really accurate).
99,999 % of people involving in audio have faulty playbacks...
WE unfortunately have no Definition of FAULT FREE playback ... none of us have.
Fault free playback may can have no similarity with  TERMS made by suns of biches in the hifi industry.
Yet again its really rare to see someone have a Fault free playback.
and in this moment hifi industry tries to hide this fact from us by pretending how they have overcome it and have something more by presenting new BS products. They seed their wormy stomach by bsing and shaping people interests in audio. It is not just audio it started from where Edward Berney used Frued's idea from controlling the masses and show corporations how to sell what they wanted ... And the results were to see corporations base on making all crap products which definitely were not made by masses needs but for selling purposes.That fucked up everything around the world And now there is no wonder to see how they going to collapse. Try watch : Century Of The Self made and written by Adam Curtis (BBC) for more info.


Regards
  unicon



I should to say i know 99% audiophiles are in a very faulty road and they pay money and effort with no positive result but even those are in correct road they gain less than they effort.

audio could not communicate with high level of awareness and it is a restricted subject.
music or other type of art is capable of more extended field for communicating.

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